Fatwa and punishment

Apply the full force of the law when dealing with those who question the institution of fatwa. That seemed to be the message conveyed to the government by a group of Muslim lawyers in the wake of the ‘yoga edict’ controversy.

This, they insisted, is to protect the sanctity of Islam against criticisms hurled by detractors, both Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

Here’s an extract of the story that was front-paged in the Utusan Malaysia:

KUALA LUMPUR 23 Nov. – Persatuan Peguam Syarie Malaysia (PGSM) mendesak kerajaan menggunakan peruntukan undang-undang di bawah Enakmen Kesalahan Jenayah Syariah dan Kanun Keseksaan bagi bertindak ke atas pihak yang mempertikaikan institusi fatwa.

Presidennya, Zainul Rijal Abu Bakar berkata, tindakan itu penting bagi memelihara kesucian Islam berikutan banyak pertubuhan bukan kerajaan (NGO) dan media secara terbuka mengeluarkan kenyataan dan laporan yang mencabar institusi berkenaan.

Oleh itu katanya, kerajaan perlu bertindak menggunakan undang-undang tersebut yang membenarkan tindakan diambil ke atas mereka yang beragama Islam mahupun bukan beragama Islam.

‘‘Undang-undang telah ada dan bagi PGSM, kerajaan perlu bertindak segera bagi menangani keresahan umat Islam setelah melihat institusi fatwa dicabar lebih-lebih lagi oleh umat Islam sendiri.

‘‘Selama ini undang-undang telah ada tetapi jarang kita dengar ada pendakwaan diambil tetapi kali ini saya harap demi kesucian agama, ia tidak lagi dibiarkan,’’ katanya kepada Utusan Malaysia di sini hari ini.

Majlis Fatwa Kebangsaan semalam, memutuskan amalan yoga secara sistematik iaitu yang membabitkan gerakan fizikal, bacaan mantera dan matlamat penyatuan diri dengan Tuhan, bertentangan dengan syariat Islam.


14 Responses to “Fatwa and punishment”

  1. 1 siew eng 24 November 2008 at 3:19 pm

    The biggest impediments to FoE in M’sia are religion and ethnicity.

  2. 2 insulted muslim 24 November 2008 at 3:57 pm

    i find it impossible to understand the non-muslims in malaysia. what is it that they actually want from us malaysian muslims…

    do you want us all to believe in what you guys believe?
    think the way you think?

    why are non-muslims always like to proselytize their values upon muslims?

    each and every fatwa ever made is meant for muslims and muslims only. so what’s with all the noises?

    the fatwa on yoga was clear. if it was all physicals and no hinduism philosophy (that contradicts with the aqidah) then it’s allowed though discouraged for worrying that those who can’t differentiate between universally acceptable philosophy and that which voids the shahadah.

    what’s next? are you gonna say that fatwa that bak kut teh is haram is stupid?

    wow, now everyone is an expert in Islamic Jurispudence.

    maybe the muslims should also scrutinize the hindus’ habit of erecting temple anywhere they please. maybe muslims could push the MPs to start a motion to make law that would prohibit placing of small red topekongs at the roadside and junctions. how would you feel then?

  3. 3 lhheng 24 November 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Hey, ‘insulted muslim’, just look at the comments (extracted from Malaysiakini) before you do the talking:-
    “A Muslim Malay Woman: I am shocked, aghast and dismayed at the fatwa on yoga and on the dressing of not-so-feminine clothes .What will they think of next? Seems to me these people have nothing better to do.

    Their posts are redundant and they have to do something to attract attention. Unfortunately the attention they attract is very negative and further destroys the liberal image of Islam Hadari which the prime minister has tried to portray.

    I have been practicing yoga since I was young and have never become a ‘lesbian’ or joined the Hindu religion as alleged.

    What an insult to Muslims and particularly women. Insulting women and belittling them seems to be the main target of these men.

    There are more important issues to focus and worry about such as the killing of innocent civilians, women and children under the false guise of jihad. Also, the killing of innocent women who have been raped.

    Instead of punishing the rapists, the poor innocent victim is put to death for the ‘shame’. This is not Islamic.

    Stop it now before it is too late. Jakim should be revamped and its funds could be put to better use to assist the poor and needy.

    There are enough Muslim organisations already looking after Muslim interests without them messing it up and making more Muslims, particularly women, angrier.”

    I recommend you go and live in a coconut shell.

  4. 4 Jok 24 November 2008 at 4:39 pm

    to lhheng

    A comment from unreliable so-called liberal malay does not represent 17 mllion muslims in Malaysia. Even MACMA or Malaysian Chinese Muslim Council supports Fatwa. so, it is you who live under a coconut shell. Many malays felt insulted with recent provocative act by non-muslim NGOs…

  5. 5 frankie 24 November 2008 at 4:50 pm

    True, non-muslims should stay away from commenting their disagreement or even agreement as it concerns none of them. Even if the fatwa appears the most illogical, it doesn’t concern us non-muslims’ way of life. So, be courteous, we have no f…..g business in commenting about it.

  6. 6 Batu Ferringhi 24 November 2008 at 5:53 pm

    Hey ‘Insulted Muslim’, pronounce as many fatwas as you like as it doesn’t affect us. If you care to look closely, it’s the Muslims themselves who are voicing concerns over the recent fatwas on yoga and tomboys. BUT why do you have to try to show your ketuanan by threatening to pronounce fatwa on bak kut teh or indian temples or the topekkong thingy? Please stick to your point of argument and stop this bullying attitude of yours.

    Like you said, fatwas concern the Muslims and not the non-Muslims so why are you threatening to pronounce fatwas on things the non-Muslims are accustomed to? One of your ketuanan things again? Sorry lah, it’s live and let live and there is no need to force your religion onto others.

  7. 7 smoking gun 24 November 2008 at 5:55 pm

    I’m just wondering what the fuss is all about from both ends. It’s not like fatwas are legally binding. I seem to remember a fatwa issued against smoking years ago yet people are still lighting up all around us.
    People, the mullahs have to justify their employment now and then. What should rile everyone up is the fact that they never think to address bigger issues like domestic violence, gender and ethnic discrimination, suicide bombings, arranged marriages between children and middle-aged men, the list goes on and on…

  8. 8 Don 24 November 2008 at 7:07 pm

    Hey you guys need to get a grip la. Get a life la. We never insult you (Malays) so don’t insult us. Did we ask you to practise? It is a choice made by your Muslim brothers and sisters alright. So stop this bad mouthing around. There are a lot more things in life, there are child rapists, drug pushers, gangsters, corrupt politician’s there is more to be done for the country.

  9. 9 max 24 November 2008 at 7:35 pm

    Actually, there should be a nationwide fatwa against Moslems practicing or seeing bomoh for their needs, or against leaders seeking bomoh help in stopping rain during events. Bomoh-ism is actually against the practice of ISLAM.

  10. 10 malayamuda 24 November 2008 at 9:47 pm

    muslims must first address the muslim brothers and sisters who are against the fatwas before targetting the non muslims who are against the fatwas…….get our house in order first !

    secondly we must realise that non muslims believe that God is one. Their religion teaches them to unite with all human beings and not segregating themselves from others.

    muslim must respect non muslim beliefs if they want non muslims to respect muslims……..

  11. 11 'fomca' 25 November 2008 at 12:18 am

    corruption is not haram, illegal logging is not haram.

  12. 12 mad like hell 25 November 2008 at 2:20 am

    hey… guys and girls… why all of a sudden this topic turns into a ‘war’ between Muslims and non-Muslims? we are all Malaysians and we love our country. about this fatwa issue, who cares??? i know enough Muslims that dun follow. Some of the non-Muslims just commented from human rights’ point of view. They did that out of good intention so please dun take it the wrong way…It also shows that they care about what happens in Malaysia…

  13. 13 mut 25 November 2008 at 11:30 am

    I think some of the “Muslims” who comment on the fatwa themselves are ignorant on the fatwa guideline themselves. Are they practising moslems who actually give a damn about their religion or do they fashion themselves as western-type religious “liberals” who actually don’t give a damn about their religion, whathever that may be? These are typical Frankies, Johnnys, Stevens who have never read the bible or gone to church once in their whole lives.

    In the West, we have these so-called Christians violating most of their religious precepts every day. Adultery, gambling, alcohol consumption etc have become a daily routine. Maybe some people are confusing that with religion. Here, I find many people of different religious callings who do not practise (in fact they actually go against their own religious teachings)! They cannot simply validate their lack of faith by expecting others to follow their Godless path. Do they expect others to abandon faith just because they did?

    Fatwas will be adhered to by practising moslems, not EVERY moslem. That’s why we can find “moslems” who can drink anything under the table even though consumption of liquor is forbidden in Islam.

  14. 14 Hjh Musalmah 1 February 2009 at 11:08 am

    If there is anything that Malaysians excell it is arguing until the cow jump over the moon. Let the fatwa be there. it is up to the individual to abide by it. The Majlis fatwa is just doing their job.
    After all the individual will tanggong their “dosa and pahala ” So can we be rational and if we need to discuss, discuss it in a civilise manner,

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